Cloudbusting In Israel

Rafi Rosen did 4 years of cloudbusting in Israel each winter for four years, and got an average of 37% increase in rain over the northern half of Israel in each of those years. He worked from a kibutz called Hasoelim near Nazareth, in the north of the country. He took the cloudbuster down to the beach near Tel Aviv on one occassion. Otherwise all his work was done from the north. He was not able to get any government funding, and the recomendation from Wiseman Institute meteorologist Gad Asaf did not get any attention either. Dr. Walter Hoppe used orgone accumulators for years in his medical practice in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, and gave public lectures about them, so he had some public attention. But he never really did any cloudbusting, though he claimed in an article in the Journal of Orgonomy that the work done by Rafi was under his direction. I think the orgonomists just did not like the idea of non-M.D.s doing any independent work in orgonomy, even cloudbusting. Victor Ostrovsky, a former Mosad agent who defected and wrote a book exposing a lot of things the Mosad would rather keep secret, told me he had never heard of the Mosad having any interest in any form of weather control while he was with them. Of all people, HE certainly would not be keeping any secrets for them! From time to time, various proposals to green the Negev have been put forth. And Israel has done a lot of research on drip irrigating, which got a lot of publicity at one time. Also, an American billionaire once offered to donate a very large amount of money, around $1,000,000,000 to irrigate the Negev. Nothing ever came of it. It was probably a tax dodge. I remember it because when I read of it, I sent him a letter offering to do it a lot cheaper, but never heard from him. If anyone else except DeMeo has ever done cloudbusting in Israel, they were not very good at it; the desert is still there. That of course does not mean nobody has tried it, but most people who are not into orgonomy IN TOTO do not have any idea what will really happen when they start cloudbusting and fail to recognize results when they see them. So they soon convince themselves it does not work and give it up. In any case, it it obvious nobody there is doing it now, or if they are, they are not doing it well. More immediate is the fact that there IS a group in Algeria known to be doing it, and that may be responsible for recent weather anomolies in the Eastern Mediterranean.

Plot Against Weather Fails

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 4:26 PM, joel carlinsky <http://www.blogger.com/mc/compose?to=joelcarlinsky@yahoo.com> wrote:

Some good news here for a change. It looks like the attempt by some self-proclaimed  "weather controllers" to interfere with the ability of the atmosphere to cleanse itself and restore normal pulsation is not working too well. The group, a sort of weather-control cult, is called the Weather Rangers. It is led by a David Wells, who claims to have invented a machine that can control the weather. He has a website, and over 50 members who presumably have these machines and are trying to disrupt the formation of the strong circulatory storm systems that we need to clean out DOR and help a stuck atmosphere regain mobility. Apparently, these machines are not working very well. This nefarious plot to deprive the world of tornadoes and hurricanes seems to have failed. Despite the claim by this group that they can prevent tornado formation, it looks like the atmosphere is still able to respond to stagnation with the strong reaction that is needed to get it flowing and pulsating again. Wow! What a relief! Well, not really. The equipment this group thinks can control weather could not really do anything. Only the Reich cloudbuster can really have a significant effect on weather systems. But if the "Weather Rangers" really COULD disrupt tornado and hurricane activity, we would be in a lot more environmental trouble than we are now. But the mere attempt by anyone, even these obvious crackpots with their obviously crackpot machines, should serve as a warning that the concept of atmospheric self-regulation should inform and underlie all cloudbusting work. To think of the cloudbuster as a device to "control weather" or "make rain" would pervert it into just another form of pollution.

Cloudseeding And Marketing Skills

Reich and McCullough had an article in CORE about seeding. Reich considered it toxic to the life energy.

Seeding is almost useless. There is no reason to think it works except the theory. No observations to back up the theory. The Weather Modification Association is a scam.

After over 60 years, they still have not been able to prove it works. But the cloudseeders are much more sophisticated at marketing their method than the Reichians are. The Reichians have the method, but not the marketing skills.

Which is fortunate. If the world ever came tro believe cloudbusting works, we would have thousands of crackpots doing cloudbusting all over the place. The fewer people who know about it, the better. I hope the public goes right on thinking Reich was a crank. That is why I do all I can to discourage belief in the orgone theory. There are already too many idiots doing cloudbusting and the last thing we need is official acceptance that it works.

Conflict Between Fools

Ash Palaise has had a problem with Frank Fenderbender! Ash posted his pdf on how to build a cloudbuster on his own website, with a warning it should not be distributed because of the danger of too many people doing cloudbusting. Frank ignored that and copied it to his own website, where it is openly available to anyone. Ash objected to this theft of copyrighted information and ordered him to take it down. Frank refused and told him it should be public knowledge. Ash, as he usually does, got furious and was foaming at the mouth, making threats of violence, lawsuits, and anything else he could think of. Frank was insisting cloudbusting was public domain since Reich had published how to do it, so nobody has a right to keep any information on it secret. Frank is obviously not at all concerned about irresponsible cloudbusting and thinks everything should be public knowledge. Ash is afraid of losing control of his own writings and seems not to realize he himself is so ignorant of cloudbusting that he should not be doing it either. Both of them are insane. They deserve each other. But this shows how difficult it is to keep any information private once it has been posted on the internet. The details of how to build a cloudbuster are already known to the very people who should be least trusted with them.

Why Some People Believe In Some Methods Of Weather Control

This is the most probable explanation for the perceived effectiveness of the Croft chembusters and other such devices. In my opinion, it is also the most probable explanation for the claims of David Wells and his associates for his weather-control machine. The effectiveness of the Reich cloudbuster is of a whole other order. The observations of the cloudbuster extend to poking holes in specific clouds in exactly the pattern of the cloudbuster tubes, time-lapse photography of the cloud aimed at falling apart with other, unaffected clouds in the same frame, statistical studies, correlated Geiger-counter readings, correlated tree-potential readings, correlated light-meter readings, and several other phenomena. In addition, cloudbuster effects have often been noticed by people not involved in the operations and not aware of them at the time they made the observations. The cloudbuster is as well confirmed as any phenomenon known to science. No other claimed method of weather modification is yet known that cannot be better explained by the mental processes described below. Apophenia From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Apophenia is the experience of seeing patterns or connections in random or meaningless data. The term was coined in 1958 by Klaus Conrad,[1] who defined it as the "unmotivated seeing of connections" accompanied by a "specific experience of an abnormal meaningfulness". While observations of relevant work environments and human behaviors in these environments is a very important first step in coming to understand any new domain, this activity is in and of itself not sufficient to constitute scientific research. It is fraught with problems of subjective bias in the observer. We (like the experts we study) often see what we expect to see, we interpret the world through our own personal lens. Thus we are extraordinarily open to the trap of apophenia. —A Cognitive Approach to Situation Awareness: Theory and Application, p.333. In statistics, apophenia would be classed as a Type I error (false positive, false alarm, caused by an excess in sensitivity). Apophenia is often used as an explanation of paranormal and religious claims, and can also explain a belief in pseudoscience. Conrad originally described this phenomenon in relation to the distortion of reality present in psychosis, but it has become more widely used to describe this tendency in healthy individuals without necessarily implying the presence of neurological differences or mental illness. In the case of autistic spectrum disorders, including Asperger syndrome and individuals who are autistic savants, individuals may in fact be aware of patterns (such as those present in complex systems, large numbers, music, etc) that are infrequently noticed by neurotypical people. Rather than being aware of patterns that do not exist, autistic individuals may be aware of meaningful patterns within situations that appear meaningless to others. Contents 1 Examples 1.1 Pareidolia 1.2 Fiction 2 See also 3 Notes 4 References 5 External links  Examples The identification of a face on the surface of Mars is an example of pareidoliac apophenia.  Pareidolia Main article: Pareidolia Pareidolia is a type of apophenia involving the finding of images or sounds in random stimuli. For example, hearing a ringing phone while taking a shower. The noise produced by the running water gives a random background from which the patterned sound of a ringing phone might be 'produced'. Recent real-world examples: the 'finding' of a cross inside a halved potato, the 'appearance' of Jesus and Mary inside a halved orange, or Jesus' face on a piece of toast or in the frost on a car window, or inside the lid of a jar of Marmite.

Scientists And Farmers

I have spoken to many scientists about orgonomy over the years, and my over-all impression is that the people who become scientists are doing so with the specific intention of avoiding any experience of the life energy. Not only the training of a scientist, but also the selection process of who shall become one, prevents any signioficant number of them from understanding orgone.

Modern scientific theories are nothing but rationalizations to enable scientists to avoid thinking about orgone. It is not a matter of information. It is a defense mechanism that cannot be overcome by more information or by any kind of evidence that orgone exists.

There are a few exceptions, like Bernard Grad, but most scientists are no more likely to become converted to orgonomy by evidence than most Jesuits are to become Buddists. And for exactly the same reasons.

So forget the scientists. I would rather demonstrate cloudbusting to children and adolescents, who are still capable of learning about it.

So I do not care if soil chemists could find something they would not understand in an area where cloudbusting had been going on. And I see no reason to involve meteorologists in cloudbusting either. They would only get in the way.

As for the involvement of the agricultural interests you suggest, that thought scares me. Farmers are the root cause of most opf the problems on this planet, and farming must be ABOLISHED, not encouraged. Farmers are the very worst people to try to get interested in cloudbusting.

Farmers typically care only for their own farms, and not at all for the surroundings, especially wildlife. And farmers, anywhere, in any place, in any time, over the past 5,000 years, are always the most rigid, repressed, hide-bound, traditionalists of any group.

 Farming could not exist in an unarmored, healthy people. Farming both needs armor to exist, and creates armor by its very nature. The kind of work involved in farming causes armoring, intensifies it when it already exists, and could never be done by normal unarmored people.

I would never try to convince farmers to try cloudbusting. There have been many cases of that happening, and they always do more harm than almost anyone else.

Frightening Prospect

Too many people find out cloudbustinmg can be done and immediately try to win over the whole world to doing it. Nobody ever stops to think what the results of acceptance would be.

 

Can you imagine the Mafia shaking down farmers by threatening to cause floods or droughts? Or the IRA having a go at British agriculture? Or India and Pakistan giving each other floods? Or teenagers playing with the weather for a joke? Or oil companies trying to increase demand for heating fuel by causing cold weather?

 

All these would happen if any of these misguided fools were ever to succeed in convincing the world cloudbusters work.

 

Fortunately, the psychological and cultural obstacles are so great that there is little danger of that ever happening.

 

--- On Thu, 3/12/09, Jürgen Fischer <orgon@freenet.de> wrote:
From: Jürgen Fischer <orgon@freenet.de>
Subject: Re : [OrgonomyMail-List] Tr : emotionnal plague
To: OrgonomyMail-List@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 8:19 PM

I did cloudbusting with DeMeo, Bernd Senf and others in the eighties and nineties. I did it in Arizona and in Germany. It always worked - even "better" than intended. The last operation (I was doing the videos) led to one of the biggest weather disasters in Europe with seven severe storms from Scotland to Greece that cost more than 200 human lives and many billions on money. Thousands lost their health and properties. Many forests were damaged for decades.

Well. No one of the nowadays "cloudbusting specialists" want to know about this event now - they simply don't mention any more - and they act on as if cloudbusting was a fine thing and could be done by some private persons. Actually it is very cheap and simple (about 2000,- $) to build a fully equiped cloudbuster and as myself anyone else who knows how to operate could built one and do it. And some really do.

What - do you think - would happen, if a politician who has to act with "public success" would really successfully fight the califonia fires with rain that is produced with cloudbusting? I think: a worldwide disaster that could ruin the global climate completely. Any farmer organisation would claim to do it. The yellow press would jump on the subject for the thrill. (Make a storm and send the camera teams even before it happens.) Everybody who thinks of himself being important, every lobbyist, would require cloudbusting for the purpose of his own interests. The military, the cotton farmers, the tourist industry ....

This is throwing it into the big mouth of the emotional plague.

Cludbusting is a NOT to make rain for some purpose, not even "to break a droungt" (as some "specialists" claim) and especially not a toy for those houswifes and students who speak of consprative "chem trails" and proudfully show videos on youtube on how they destroyed clouds with their "holy granades".

Reichs first public cloudbusting attempts to help the strawberry farmers was a rather naive action, but he did not know yet about the self regulative rules of the climate when he did it. Later in his operations in Arizona he did not make rain any more but he tried to enhance the relative humidity of the air to help the desert vegetaion to grow slowly over a long period of time. Cloudbusting is more related biology than to meteorology. It is ecology.

Cloudbusting can only be used beneficially to help the global climate to regain its self regulation. It can only be done properly if you know the causes of DOR, at least of those origings of DOR made by us humans. I know and some others do, too. But better not to publish this.

There is one example in Northern Africa: a contemporary cloudbusting project done for an agricultural project. It sounds very successful and reasonable, but what is really happening? The natural weather regulation is perverted even more. The project will be dependent on cloudbusting for decades, perhaps for ever, because not the cause of the desert is reversed, only come square miles are artificially supplied with rain by drawing clouds from north to the south. No one knows what will be the result if you constantly change the global climate just to make rain for some square miles of one single farming project.

I think, if we use cloudbusting for shortsighted aims like breaking a drounght, for fire fighing or farming, or making sunshine for tourists - soon every fire in Australia would be countered with cloudbusting. But what if this results in a climate change that stops rain in the Indonesian rain forests or if it results in a warming of Antarctica and the melting ice would raise the oceans some meters?
At least: the Californian coast would not have a fire problem any more because most cities would be below the sea level.