Conflict Between Fools

Ash Palaise has had a problem with Frank Fenderbender! Ash posted his pdf on how to build a cloudbuster on his own website, with a warning it should not be distributed because of the danger of too many people doing cloudbusting. Frank ignored that and copied it to his own website, where it is openly available to anyone. Ash objected to this theft of copyrighted information and ordered him to take it down. Frank refused and told him it should be public knowledge. Ash, as he usually does, got furious and was foaming at the mouth, making threats of violence, lawsuits, and anything else he could think of. Frank was insisting cloudbusting was public domain since Reich had published how to do it, so nobody has a right to keep any information on it secret. Frank is obviously not at all concerned about irresponsible cloudbusting and thinks everything should be public knowledge. Ash is afraid of losing control of his own writings and seems not to realize he himself is so ignorant of cloudbusting that he should not be doing it either. Both of them are insane. They deserve each other. But this shows how difficult it is to keep any information private once it has been posted on the internet. The details of how to build a cloudbuster are already known to the very people who should be least trusted with them.

Why Some People Believe In Some Methods Of Weather Control

This is the most probable explanation for the perceived effectiveness of the Croft chembusters and other such devices. In my opinion, it is also the most probable explanation for the claims of David Wells and his associates for his weather-control machine. The effectiveness of the Reich cloudbuster is of a whole other order. The observations of the cloudbuster extend to poking holes in specific clouds in exactly the pattern of the cloudbuster tubes, time-lapse photography of the cloud aimed at falling apart with other, unaffected clouds in the same frame, statistical studies, correlated Geiger-counter readings, correlated tree-potential readings, correlated light-meter readings, and several other phenomena. In addition, cloudbuster effects have often been noticed by people not involved in the operations and not aware of them at the time they made the observations. The cloudbuster is as well confirmed as any phenomenon known to science. No other claimed method of weather modification is yet known that cannot be better explained by the mental processes described below. Apophenia From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Apophenia is the experience of seeing patterns or connections in random or meaningless data. The term was coined in 1958 by Klaus Conrad,[1] who defined it as the "unmotivated seeing of connections" accompanied by a "specific experience of an abnormal meaningfulness". While observations of relevant work environments and human behaviors in these environments is a very important first step in coming to understand any new domain, this activity is in and of itself not sufficient to constitute scientific research. It is fraught with problems of subjective bias in the observer. We (like the experts we study) often see what we expect to see, we interpret the world through our own personal lens. Thus we are extraordinarily open to the trap of apophenia. —A Cognitive Approach to Situation Awareness: Theory and Application, p.333. In statistics, apophenia would be classed as a Type I error (false positive, false alarm, caused by an excess in sensitivity). Apophenia is often used as an explanation of paranormal and religious claims, and can also explain a belief in pseudoscience. Conrad originally described this phenomenon in relation to the distortion of reality present in psychosis, but it has become more widely used to describe this tendency in healthy individuals without necessarily implying the presence of neurological differences or mental illness. In the case of autistic spectrum disorders, including Asperger syndrome and individuals who are autistic savants, individuals may in fact be aware of patterns (such as those present in complex systems, large numbers, music, etc) that are infrequently noticed by neurotypical people. Rather than being aware of patterns that do not exist, autistic individuals may be aware of meaningful patterns within situations that appear meaningless to others. Contents 1 Examples 1.1 Pareidolia 1.2 Fiction 2 See also 3 Notes 4 References 5 External links  Examples The identification of a face on the surface of Mars is an example of pareidoliac apophenia.  Pareidolia Main article: Pareidolia Pareidolia is a type of apophenia involving the finding of images or sounds in random stimuli. For example, hearing a ringing phone while taking a shower. The noise produced by the running water gives a random background from which the patterned sound of a ringing phone might be 'produced'. Recent real-world examples: the 'finding' of a cross inside a halved potato, the 'appearance' of Jesus and Mary inside a halved orange, or Jesus' face on a piece of toast or in the frost on a car window, or inside the lid of a jar of Marmite.

Scientists And Farmers

I have spoken to many scientists about orgonomy over the years, and my over-all impression is that the people who become scientists are doing so with the specific intention of avoiding any experience of the life energy. Not only the training of a scientist, but also the selection process of who shall become one, prevents any signioficant number of them from understanding orgone.

Modern scientific theories are nothing but rationalizations to enable scientists to avoid thinking about orgone. It is not a matter of information. It is a defense mechanism that cannot be overcome by more information or by any kind of evidence that orgone exists.

There are a few exceptions, like Bernard Grad, but most scientists are no more likely to become converted to orgonomy by evidence than most Jesuits are to become Buddists. And for exactly the same reasons.

So forget the scientists. I would rather demonstrate cloudbusting to children and adolescents, who are still capable of learning about it.

So I do not care if soil chemists could find something they would not understand in an area where cloudbusting had been going on. And I see no reason to involve meteorologists in cloudbusting either. They would only get in the way.

As for the involvement of the agricultural interests you suggest, that thought scares me. Farmers are the root cause of most opf the problems on this planet, and farming must be ABOLISHED, not encouraged. Farmers are the very worst people to try to get interested in cloudbusting.

Farmers typically care only for their own farms, and not at all for the surroundings, especially wildlife. And farmers, anywhere, in any place, in any time, over the past 5,000 years, are always the most rigid, repressed, hide-bound, traditionalists of any group.

 Farming could not exist in an unarmored, healthy people. Farming both needs armor to exist, and creates armor by its very nature. The kind of work involved in farming causes armoring, intensifies it when it already exists, and could never be done by normal unarmored people.

I would never try to convince farmers to try cloudbusting. There have been many cases of that happening, and they always do more harm than almost anyone else.

Frightening Prospect

Too many people find out cloudbustinmg can be done and immediately try to win over the whole world to doing it. Nobody ever stops to think what the results of acceptance would be.

 

Can you imagine the Mafia shaking down farmers by threatening to cause floods or droughts? Or the IRA having a go at British agriculture? Or India and Pakistan giving each other floods? Or teenagers playing with the weather for a joke? Or oil companies trying to increase demand for heating fuel by causing cold weather?

 

All these would happen if any of these misguided fools were ever to succeed in convincing the world cloudbusters work.

 

Fortunately, the psychological and cultural obstacles are so great that there is little danger of that ever happening.

 

--- On Thu, 3/12/09, Jürgen Fischer <orgon@freenet.de> wrote:
From: Jürgen Fischer <orgon@freenet.de>
Subject: Re : [OrgonomyMail-List] Tr : emotionnal plague
To: OrgonomyMail-List@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 8:19 PM

I did cloudbusting with DeMeo, Bernd Senf and others in the eighties and nineties. I did it in Arizona and in Germany. It always worked - even "better" than intended. The last operation (I was doing the videos) led to one of the biggest weather disasters in Europe with seven severe storms from Scotland to Greece that cost more than 200 human lives and many billions on money. Thousands lost their health and properties. Many forests were damaged for decades.

Well. No one of the nowadays "cloudbusting specialists" want to know about this event now - they simply don't mention any more - and they act on as if cloudbusting was a fine thing and could be done by some private persons. Actually it is very cheap and simple (about 2000,- $) to build a fully equiped cloudbuster and as myself anyone else who knows how to operate could built one and do it. And some really do.

What - do you think - would happen, if a politician who has to act with "public success" would really successfully fight the califonia fires with rain that is produced with cloudbusting? I think: a worldwide disaster that could ruin the global climate completely. Any farmer organisation would claim to do it. The yellow press would jump on the subject for the thrill. (Make a storm and send the camera teams even before it happens.) Everybody who thinks of himself being important, every lobbyist, would require cloudbusting for the purpose of his own interests. The military, the cotton farmers, the tourist industry ....

This is throwing it into the big mouth of the emotional plague.

Cludbusting is a NOT to make rain for some purpose, not even "to break a droungt" (as some "specialists" claim) and especially not a toy for those houswifes and students who speak of consprative "chem trails" and proudfully show videos on youtube on how they destroyed clouds with their "holy granades".

Reichs first public cloudbusting attempts to help the strawberry farmers was a rather naive action, but he did not know yet about the self regulative rules of the climate when he did it. Later in his operations in Arizona he did not make rain any more but he tried to enhance the relative humidity of the air to help the desert vegetaion to grow slowly over a long period of time. Cloudbusting is more related biology than to meteorology. It is ecology.

Cloudbusting can only be used beneficially to help the global climate to regain its self regulation. It can only be done properly if you know the causes of DOR, at least of those origings of DOR made by us humans. I know and some others do, too. But better not to publish this.

There is one example in Northern Africa: a contemporary cloudbusting project done for an agricultural project. It sounds very successful and reasonable, but what is really happening? The natural weather regulation is perverted even more. The project will be dependent on cloudbusting for decades, perhaps for ever, because not the cause of the desert is reversed, only come square miles are artificially supplied with rain by drawing clouds from north to the south. No one knows what will be the result if you constantly change the global climate just to make rain for some square miles of one single farming project.

I think, if we use cloudbusting for shortsighted aims like breaking a drounght, for fire fighing or farming, or making sunshine for tourists - soon every fire in Australia would be countered with cloudbusting. But what if this results in a climate change that stops rain in the Indonesian rain forests or if it results in a warming of Antarctica and the melting ice would raise the oceans some meters?
At least: the Californian coast would not have a fire problem any more because most cities would be below the sea level.

Orgonotic Overcharge

I once knew a woman whose husband was seriously involved in cloudbusting. The cloudbuster was located about 100 meters from the house on their small farm. They had several small children. This woman knew nothing of orgonomy, but she insisted that when the cloudbuster was working the children were more irritable and kept getting into fights.

In another case, someone told me of his college roomate who made himself an orgone vest and hat, and wore them continually for a week. At the end of that time he ''flipped out'' and required hospitalization. From these and several other examples, I think it can be regarded as proven that orgone overcharge can be a hazard to ones' mental health. 

Overcharge can be produced by means other than overuse of the orgone accumulator. One of the most common is extensive use of the cloudbuster. Two of the most active cloudbuster operators, Trevor Constable and James DeMeo, both show unmistakable signs of drastic overcharge. The gradiosity and megalamania they both display are characteristic of chronic expansion, and in the case of DeMeo, the arrogance and assertivness that is the reaction of a naturally authoritarian personality. 

Both of them display similiar levels of paranoia and power-drunkeness, but in the case of Constable, his reaction is contraction of the ocular segment, leading to mysticism, whereas in the case of DeMeo, the reaction to chronic overcharge and inability to contract results in his intense drive to dominate and control everyone and everything related to orgonomy. Both of them try to dominate and control the atmosphere. 
 

Both are good examples of the type of pathology that can be triggered by chronic orgonotic overcharge. The use of remote-controlled cloudbusters to avoid excessive exposure to the operator, a technique invented by Dr. Richard Blasband, and used especially by James DeMeo, does not seem to work very well. I would speculate that in such cases, the most intense effect, that in the immediate vicinity of the cloudbuster, is avoided, but that a more long-range effect, less noticeable because less intense, is still far-reaching enough to affect the operator, but is more subtle, and therefore more dangerous.

In many of his writtings, DeMeo seems to be almost literally foaming at the mouth, and barely resisting the urge to violence. Certainly, on the political scene, he is a strong advocate of nationalistic policies that would lead to military action, and was an ardent supporter of the Bush Administration, with which he seemed to strongly identify.

Forest Fires Should Not Always Be Fought

Wild and Prescribed Fire in Forests of the Intermountain West
A Policy Statement
by Joy Belsky

       The paradigm on forest fires is shifting from one of fire as a destructive force, to one of fire as a regenerative force. Although most forest scientists have made this shift, most forest managers in state and federal agencies have not. They are still attempting to suppress fires in wilderness and roadless areas and to halt the natural cycle of renewal and regrowth in forests damaged by past fire suppression.

        In order to encourage the US Forest Service and other agencies to adopt guidelines to fit our new understanding of fire in forested ecosystems of the Intermountain West, the Oregon Natural Resources Council (ONRC) has prepared its own fire policy. We are distributing it to forest activists to encourage them to begin the process of educating the general public.

         Over a hundred years of logging, grazing, fire suppression, road-building, and development have resulted in widespread fragmentation and degradation of the magnificent coniferous forests of the Intermountain West. Many of these forests are recognized by the scientific community as being critically destabilized. Still, significant areas, including wilderness, roadless areas, and moist forests, remain relatively unchanged.
  
. .Originally, most Ponderosa Pine and mixed-conifer forests of the Intermountain West were open and park-like, with large, majestic trees underlain by dense grass swards. These low- and mid-elevation forests were shaped by millennia of recurrent forest fire, which helped maintain the forests' ecological integrity by reducing tree densities, controlling forest pests, and releasing a steady supply of nutrients into the soil. Many of the wildlife species in these and Western forests evolved with fire-retum intervals as short as 7-30 years and are dependent on the conditions created by fire for regeneration, rapid growth, food, and shelter.

         Due to nearly a century of active fire prevention, fire-fighting, and livestock grazing, which eliminates the fine fuels necessary to carry low-intensity surface fires, ever greater numbers of tree seedlings and saplings have survived to maturity. Forests that were once open and park-like due to periodic thinning by low-intensity ground fire now develop into dense thickets. During dry seasons and prolonged drought, these trees become stressed, limbs fall to the ground, and trees die. Consequently, dead woody debris accumulates and forests become increasingly prone to intense fire. Without periodic fire to reduce this fuel load and limit tree numbers, species composition of the forests changes from dominance by fire-tolerant, sunlight-loving species such as Ponderosa Pine and Western Larch, to dominance by fire-sensitive, shade-tolerant species such as Douglas-fir and true firs. These changes have created conditions in which many of the original
park-like forests have been converted into dense, fire-prone, and increasingly disease- and insect-prone stands.

           Nevertheless, many forests in the region have not been significantly affected by recent changes in the fire regime. Riparian forests and wetter forests on north-facing slopes and at higher elevations traditionally experienced fewer fires. And forest types such as high-elevation Lodgepole Pine and Engelmann Spruce-Subalpine Fir have always developed into dense flammable forests, which were periodically consumed by stand-replacing fires.

            Because of drought, high tree densities, high fuel loads, and the loss of a mosaic of burned and un-burned forest stands, low-elevation forests and those on south-facing slopes are now more vulnerable to destructive fire, insects, and disease than they were formerly The Oregon Natural Resources Council (ONRC) advocates that land managers initiate measures that mimic Nature in reducing fuel loads, so as to return forests to their pre-EuroAmerican-settlement densities and fire regimes. These activities include a let-bum policy in some areas.

FIRE PREVENTION
        Fire prevention should not be a goal of forest management in the Intermountain West except when extraordinary ecological values are at stake. Since fire is an inevitable and ecologically essential component of forest ecosystems, managers should focus on restoring historical fire regimes.

FIRE SUPPRESSION
          Fire suppression activities should be conducted only when absolutely necessary and with utmost care for the longterm integrity of the ecosystem.

* Fire suppression should be conducted only where irreplaceable ecological values (e.g. rare forest types or a major portion of the population of an endangered species) are at stake, or in areas that should be protected until prescribed burning can reduce excess fuels.

* Fire suppression should not be allowed in wilderness, wild and scenic rivers, or roadless regions, unless these areas have irreplaceable natural values and are scheduled for prescribed burning.

* Fires should not be actively fought where nearby natural fire barriers such as bodies of water or rocky ridges are likely to extinguish the fire.

Joy Belsky is the staff ecologist at Oregon Natural Resources Council, 5825 North Greely, Portland, OR 97217 USA.

Electromagnetic Weather Control?

HAARP and any other electromagnetic device, regardless of how much electrical power it has, and regardless of what it does or is designed to do, simply CANNOT have consistant or predictable effects on weather. Electromagnetic energy is an irritant to orgone energy and the result of ANY electromagnetic irritation of the planetary orgone envelope will be increased randomness, chaotic rapid and unpredictable osscilation, and after a time, if the stimulus is continued, a lapse into stagnation and inactivity.

The widespread use of electromagnetism as a technology on this planet since 1885 has contributed somewhat to the total over-all oranur burden of the planet, but the total is minor compared to that of nuclear technology since 1945. The amount of DOR / oranur produced by any single electromagnetic installation is a very small part at most of whatever is happening in the atmosphere at any given time. No single electromagnetic device or array of devices can create enough of an effect to be noticeable against the background of far greater imput from nuclear sources of irritation.

That is not true of the cloudbuster, however. A single cloudbuster can have huge effects, enough to be noticeable against the background of the oranur / DOR caused by nuclear and electromagnetic technology. That is why I consider cloudbusting as a possible cause of any weather anomoly, but do not pay any attention to claims that some electromagnetic equipment somewhere might have caused something to happen.

 There is no credible scientific theory that could account for any alleged electromagnetic weather control. And to be credible, any such theory would have to include the overwhelming importance of orgone energy to atmospheric functioning. Otherwise it would be unable to explain the very solidly established facts observed durring cloudbusting operations. Any theory of meteorology that fails to take cloudbuster effects into consideration is obviously wrong and can be disregarded.